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I think my workflow isn’t recommended, but for years, I’ve been happily streaming video from a camcorder (lately, the Vixia HV20) via firewire and audio from a usb mic, then combining in the machine. I’d like to go tapeless, but I don’t see any tapeless camcorders in the consumer range comparable to the HV20 with firewire. Am I outa luck? For some reason, there never seem to be articles addressing this or specs showing whether a camcorder can be used as a webcam (which would indicate that I can do what I’m trying to). Actually tapeless doesn’t require firewire.
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Firewire was the standard when it came to importing dv streams into the computer for editing because it offered a constant data rate, as opposed to usb which was not constant, but delivered data in bursts. Now with tapeless formats, you are simply doing a file transfer which can be done over usb. The drawback to tapeless is that if you have an older computer, you will probably encounter some heartache in the editing process because tapeless formats are more compressed. “At least Focus anyway (which unfortunately is the only brand I’ve ever been able to find).” “Their devices are only made for specific camcorders.
So if you don’t have the right one, then you’ve just wasted your money.” Both statements are just wrong. There are many makers of Direct to Disk (DTD) recorders on the market today, and not all camera-specific recorders are camera-specific-EXCLUSIVE. I have a pair of Sony HVR-DR60 Recording Units that were designed along with the HVR-V1U HDV camcorder, and work together well. But I have Sony Z1 cameras, made before the DR60. I’ve used my DR60’s with all of my cameras – if the camera has Firewire, the DR60 will work.
Sony has recently introduced a solid-state recorder, but I haven’t needed to look at it yet. Event, I can’t speak as to the performance of the FE HDR’s with brands other than JVC as I’ve only used them with that brand. However, I’ve seen them work with panasonic, sony and canon brand cameras with firewire capability. Now I will attest the OS does take some getting used to. Truthfully, I think Adam would be better off using the solid-state card recorders vice the HDR’s. The HDR’s have greater capacity, but the SSR’s don’t have the HD in them which is one less thing to go down at an inopportune time. I agree with Steve in that if it has a firewire input that’s in working order, it should work.
Sounds like you got a ‘lemon’. Thanks to all of you! I will look into the SSRs. Any specific recommendations? I’m also wondering if there’s actually a simple camera that I can use specifically for the purpose I’m trying to serve. I can use a camera for remote shooting, but if I’m just filming directly into the computer for some parts – there may be a simple HD firewire camera that can do the trick. Does anyone know of one that matches the quality of a good consumer camcorder?
I’m feeding audio in from a USB mic. Eddie mac_eddie for macbook pro. Ideally, a firewire 800 camera might be able to keep in sync. I record Fierwire direct to PC in my studio using Sony Vegas. HDVSplit also works. It should work with any camera with Firewire output. Firewire-400 is plenty fast for DV or HDV capture.
Firewire-800 is a marketing toy to sell “high speed” external drives. Ironically, these external FW-800 drive cases are equipped with a standard SATA disk drive.
So you are still limited by the slowest piece of hardware in the data chain – in most cases, the disk drive itself. For example, the fastest WD SATA drive has about a 68 MB/s Buffer to Disk sustained (write) speed. I’m to looking for the exact same thing!! What has been for a long time standard, easy to use, wide support – streaming video over FireWire – has now become a luxurious feature for the more expensive cameras, it seems. We’re left with no standard way of streaming video over USB. Some of the SSD camcorders offer a “web cam mode”, where they go into a baby mode with minimal settings, and a low resolution feed going through USB, camera identifying itself as a standard webcam.
My trustworthy old DV camera broke a couple of weeks ago. Now I’m stuck with an automatic web camera (not a real alternative since I need manual camera settings). Or a cheaper DV camera that does only record Interlaced (not a real alternative since I’m using it in a live video to screen it needs to shoot progressive. Realtime de-interlace looks horrible.) Or an awesome that does not offer live-video without interface graphics blocking the screen through video output, or with Canon’s live-view not identifying itself as a generic video source It streams, but you cannot catch the stream.
Now how stupid is that? On PC you could useto capture the DSLR live-view stream, but no luck on Mac as of now. Now I’m thinking maybe for Live gigs perhaps a camera connected to a SDvideo-to-firewire converter would do it. But it has to offer manual controls. Awwhhhgghh Please let me know if you find any decent solution.
Hey Ya'll, I have a Sony Handycam and hundreds of hours of tape to transfer to my PC to save my home movies. Here's the issue; You can only do this with a rarely seen HDMI cable, and only on XP, the camera can not be recognized by a Vista/Win 7 or 8. The only cables that can do the transfer are AV cables or the oddly shaped HDMI I described.
I don't know a single PC that has AV inputs, so that's useless. The only PC I own that has the matching HDMI input is my old XP, my Vista and Win 7 PC's don't have this HDMI port. My question is can I remove the video cartridge/card with the various HDMI and USB ports and install it in my Win 7 desktop? I do have an empty slot designed for another CD/DVD drive. I could just get the XP running again I suppose, but the fan is running full speed as soon as I power up, and anyway, I'd have to transfer the vids twice this way. The included software is Sony Imagemixer and the camera is a Sony HDR-HC3, a hi-def with mini DV tapes.
The HDMI port is fairly common, essentially every graphics card and laptop for the past 5 years or more comes with one as standard. The issue here is that computers use HDMI out ports, not HDMI in. So if you plugged the camcorder into the laptop via a HDMI port, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it. Basically, you are looking down the wrong road with the HDMI port! What you can do, as I have done myself to get some old home video footage from video tapes to PC, is use a video capture card (Video/Audio grabber).
You can get them relatively cheap and basically the card has AV input and USB output. You plug the capture card into your PC via the USB and the camcorder into the capture card via the AV cables.
(You'll need to install the software/drivers associated with the capture card on the PC for it to be recognised). Then all you need to do is hit play on the camcorders playback button and it should start playing in the software on your PC, the software for the capture card will allow you to then record what is going through the capture card and save it as a video file on your desktop. You may want to do some more research into them before you buy one. The HDMI port is fairly common, essentially every graphics card and laptop for the past 5 years or more comes with one as standard. The issue here is that computers use HDMI out ports, not HDMI in.
So if you plugged the camcorder into the laptop via a HDMI port, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it. Basically, you are looking down the wrong road with the HDMI port! What you can do, as I have done myself to get some old home video footage from video tapes to PC, is use a video capture card (Video/Audio grabber). You can get them relatively cheap and basically the card has AV input and USB output.
You plug the capture card into your PC via the USB and the camcorder into the capture card via the AV cables. (You'll need to install the software/drivers associated with the capture card on the PC for it to be recognised). Then all you need to do is hit play on the camcorders playback button and it should start playing in the software on your PC, the software for the capture card will allow you to then record what is going through the capture card and save it as a video file on your desktop. You may want to do some more research into them before you buy one. I like where you're going with this, but just a few things.If I go AV cables, I will lose the high def quality.
Composite can't transfer video in high def, I domn't even think it will be in 720 or 1080i. The HDMI I'm describing isn't the standard shape you're thinking of, this is more like a 4 pin firewire and not found on many PCs or laptops, I've bought 3 PC's since the XP days and none had this input, everything is now just standard HDMI and USB with a couple of memory stick ports for photo cards. So question is, if i buy a capture card for my Win 7 desktop, will it 'handle' this odd 4 pin HDMI. If you look on the web, look up Sony Firewire and go to Pictures and you'll see the one I have to match.Thanks for helping me.
@Wyattspoppa, are you sure this is HDMI cable, and not (more common for Sony) i400/i800 interface (otherwise known as FireWire)? This would be the best way to transfer your videos, and will preserve the full quality of the recording. In that case, you would need a FireWire interface on your computer. Many older notebooks have this integrated, so you might be better off getting an used $150 laptop off eBay with that interface (and it will come with XP alreay preinstalled). You know what you're talking about, yes it's the Sony Firewire cable 4 pin to 6 or 9 pin I'll need. I'm on disabilty (permanent) so I'm trying to do this on a budget, so buying another PC is out.
I already have an XP desktop with the exact firewire port I need, but the fan is running on high the second I turn it on and it never slows down, if i can solve that issue, we're golden. I can use that desktop and problem solved. Thanks for helping me.
I like where you're going with this, but just a few things.If I go AV cables, I will lose the high def quality. Composite can't transfer video in high def, I domn't even think it will be in 720 or 1080i. The HDMI I'm describing isn't the standard shape you're thinking of, this is more like a 4 pin firewire and not found on many PCs or laptops, I've bought 3 PC's since the XP days and none had this input, everything is now just standard HDMI and USB with a couple of memory stick ports for photo cards. So question is, if i buy a capture card for my Win 7 desktop, will it 'handle' this odd 4 pin HDMI. If you look on the web, look up Sony Firewire and go to Pictures and you'll see the one I have to match.Thanks for helping me Just had a look into this, whilst you will lose some quality with AV you may have difficulty getting a hold of the card required to capture via the Firewire Port. Firstly take a look at here, if you scroll down through this forum you will see a guy has posted screenshots of the captures using the different cable types (AV, S-Video, Firewire) just so you can gauge the difference and see if its worth the hassle. As for the card you may require the DV iLink Sony IEEE1394, it plugs into a PCI port in your PC.
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Although a quick look on Amazon and eBay shows it may be quite difficult to get hold of. Here'sso you know what to look for. The HDMI port is fairly common, essentially every graphics card and laptop for the past 5 years or more comes with one as standard. The issue here is that computers use HDMI out ports, not HDMI in. So if you plugged the camcorder into the laptop via a HDMI port, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it. Basically, you are looking down the wrong road with the HDMI port! What you can do, as I have done myself to get some old home video footage from video tapes to PC, is use a video capture card (Video/Audio grabber).
You can get them relatively cheap and basically the card has AV input and USB output. You plug the capture card into your PC via the USB and the camcorder into the capture card via the AV cables. (You'll need to install the software/drivers associated with the capture card on the PC for it to be recognised). Then all you need to do is hit play on the camcorders playback button and it should start playing in the software on your PC, the software for the capture card will allow you to then record what is going through the capture card and save it as a video file on your desktop.
You may want to do some more research into them before you buy one. Problem solved, I got an old Gateway XP desktop running and it had the 4 pin port, it instantly recognized the camera and capture was going, Thanks so much! The drag now is the size of DV tape time on a PC is like 10 MB for a few seconds of tape, a 60 minute tape will likely be like 6 gigs!
Thanks so much guys. I like where you're going with this, but just a few things.If I go AV cables, I will lose the high def quality. Composite can't transfer video in high def, I domn't even think it will be in 720 or 1080i. The HDMI I'm describing isn't the standard shape you're thinking of, this is more like a 4 pin firewire and not found on many PCs or laptops, I've bought 3 PC's since the XP days and none had this input, everything is now just standard HDMI and USB with a couple of memory stick ports for photo cards. So question is, if i buy a capture card for my Win 7 desktop, will it 'handle' this odd 4 pin HDMI.
If you look on the web, look up Sony Firewire and go to Pictures and you'll see the one I have to match.Thanks for helping me Just had a look into this, whilst you will lose some quality with AV you may have difficulty getting a hold of the card required to capture via the Firewire Port. Firstly take a look at here, if you scroll down through this forum you will see a guy has posted screenshots of the captures using the different cable types (AV, S-Video, Firewire) just so you can gauge the difference and see if its worth the hassle. As for the card you may require the DV iLink Sony IEEE1394, it plugs into a PCI port in your PC. Although a quick look on Amazon and eBay shows it may be quite difficult to get hold of.
Here'sso you know what to look for. You were right, the special firewire fixed everything, I repaired my old XP desktop which had the weird shaped hdmi port and it recognized my handycam right away. You saved me having to buy a $250 dvi tape deck. I have a question, do you think I can remove the usb/hdmi port from my xp and install it in an open slot on my Win 7 desktop? First, it will be much faster at ripping the tapes than an xp and of course, I won't have to switch PC's each time I want to work with my home movies. You can speed up the process by undying this old XP for capture only, then move the capture to external drive and processing it on the fastest computer you have access to.
You should end with one DVD per two or three tapers. Oooh, I like your idea! I fixed the XP as you suggested, it was just a heatsink repair and my camcorder was recognized immediately but I began to rip the tape to files and the mb usage was huge.
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Are you suggesting I rip them to like a 1 TB hard drive or an external DVD burner? Oooh, I like your idea!
I fixed the XP as you suggested, it was just a heatsink repair and my camcorder was recognized immediately but I began to rip the tape to files and the mb usage was huge. Are you suggesting I rip them to like a 1 TB hard drive or an external DVD burner?
Let me start with a quick explanation of why the video files are so large (in case you are interested). When you are ripping the videos from the camcorder you are basically taking the raw footage and storing it straight onto your PC, so the file size is 1:1 from camcorder to PC. I'm going to assume your camcorder records in HD at 1024.720 resolution (just so you get the gist of things). This means that every frame is made up of 1024.720 pixels, and each pixel requires roughly 1 byte of storage (hexadecimal RGB values plus an alpha, so: rrggbbaa = 8 bits/1 byte).
So each frame is around 737280 bytes (0.74 mb) and I'd assume it'd record at around 24 fps which means that every second worth of video requires roughly 17.7mb. (All these numbers assume the camcorder does no compression on the raw footage itself). So this leaves you with two options.
Either as you mentioned, purchase an external hard drive to store all of the raw, uncompressed, footage (this option gives the best quality video, at the cost of much larger file sizes). The second option would be to get some free software and compress the footage yourself, the videos will lose some quality with this but the file sizes can drop quite significantly depending on the amount of compression you do. Oooh, I like your idea!
I fixed the XP as you suggested, it was just a heatsink repair and my camcorder was recognized immediately but I began to rip the tape to files and the mb usage was huge. Are you suggesting I rip them to like a 1 TB hard drive or an external DVD burner? Let me start with a quick explanation of why the video files are so large (in case you are interested). When you are ripping the videos from the camcorder you are basically taking the raw footage and storing it straight onto your PC, so the file size is 1:1 from camcorder to PC. I'm going to assume your camcorder records in HD at 1024.720 resolution (just so you get the gist of things).
This means that every frame is made up of 1024.720 pixels, and each pixel requires roughly 1 byte of storage (hexadecimal RGB values plus an alpha, so: rrggbbaa = 8 bits/1 byte). So each frame is around 737280 bytes (0.74 mb) and I'd assume it'd record at around 24 fps which means that every second worth of video requires roughly 17.7mb.
(All these numbers assume the camcorder does no compression on the raw footage itself). So this leaves you with two options. Either as you mentioned, purchase an external hard drive to store all of the raw, uncompressed, footage (this option gives the best quality video, at the cost of much larger file sizes). The second option would be to get some free software and compress the footage yourself, the videos will lose some quality with this but the file sizes can drop quite significantly depending on the amount of compression you do. No, I love the tech talk, and I'll definitely want to use compression, I'm not going to load up a 1 TB HDD with nothing but raw tape that I don't need in perfect Hi Def, it's family movies, not 'Fifth Element'.
Even on my 60' 3DHD Sammy, I don't notice any quality loss worth mentioning when watching 720P/1080i etc, I am particular about my home theater images, but not the video of my son shoving spaghetti in his face (-;/. So shall I just rip it to the XP desktop and then use compression software to shrink it and burn discs or do you think I can steal the video card from the XP and patch it into my faster Win 7 somehow? (open bay).how would you do this job?
I'm transposing at least 25 60-90 min tapes.I plan to keep the backup files on my main PC's external HDD and burn the whole collection to DVD-R (Verbatims). It's amazing that you know all the formulas! Thanks for everything. So shall I just rip it to the XP desktop and then use compression software to shrink it and burn discs or do you think I can steal the video card from the XP and patch it into my faster Win 7 somehow? (open bay).how would you do this job? You could take the FireWire card out of the XP and put it in your Win7 PC, most of these cards use a standard PCIe slot so physically moving it from one PC to the other shouldn't be much of an issue. However, as mentioned, you may come across some driver issues.
I think ripping it from the camcorder is fine on the XP computer (the Win7 PC won't be able to do this part any faster), however it'll likely struggle when compressing large video files so this is probably best done on the better Win7 PC. A simple way of doing it would be to just put the video onto the external drive after its been ripped on the XP machine and then transfer it to the Win7 PC to compress and burn to disc. Unfortunately, there is a good chance your old card won't have drivers for Windows 7 (but nothing should stop you trying).
You can also make a network between the two computers, directing the old XP (the grabber) to store the files over the network to the second PC (and to its external drive). This way you can do the processing of MovieN while Movie(N+1) is being captured. But - if you go with network setup, check that your network won't be saturated by the grabber' output.